Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

03/14/2011 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:06:31 PM Start
01:08:15 PM Commission on Judicial Conduct
01:34:01 PM Alaska Judicial Council
01:44:50 PM Violent Crimes Compensation Board
01:50:49 PM Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
02:08:24 PM HB175
02:45:55 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar;
Commission on Judicial Conduct;
Alaska Judicial Council;
Violent Crimes Compensation Board
+= HB 175 COURT APPEARANCES; ARSON; INFRACTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HB 175 - COURT APPEARANCES; ARSON; INFRACTIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:08:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  THOMPSON announced  that the  next order  of business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO. 175,  "An Act relating to  an appearance                                                               
before  a judicial  officer after  arrest; relating  to penalties                                                               
for  operating  a  vehicle  without  possessing  proof  of  motor                                                               
vehicle liability  insurance or  a driver's license;  relating to                                                               
penalties  for certain  arson  offenses;  amending Rule  5(a)(1),                                                               
Alaska Rules of Criminal Procedure,  and Rule 43.10, Alaska Rules                                                               
of Administration; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:09:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section, Criminal  Division, Department  of Law  (DOL), explained                                                               
that  HB  175  would  correct   four  problems  in  current  law.                                                               
Specifically, Sections 1,  2, and 6 -  pertaining respectively to                                                               
AS  12.25.150, rights  of prisoner  after  arrest, AS  12.70.130,                                                               
arrest  without warrant  of  a  person charged  with  a crime  in                                                               
another state, and  Rule 5(a)(1) of the Alaska  Rules of Criminal                                                               
Procedure,  proceedings before  the judge  or magistrate  - would                                                               
conform  those provisions  of law  to reflect  changes made  last                                                               
year  via House  Bill 324.   That  bill last  year increased  the                                                               
timeframe - from  24 hours to 48  hours - in which  a person must                                                               
be  brought  before  a judicial  officer  after  being  arrested;                                                               
unfortunately,  that  bill  neglected  to  also  make  conforming                                                               
changes to AS 12.25.150 and AS 12.70.130.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  explained  that  Section 3  -  pertaining  to  AS                                                               
28.15.131, license to be carried  and exhibited on demand - would                                                               
conform that statute  to current court rules in  the Alaska Rules                                                               
of  Administration  which provide  that  not  having one's  valid                                                               
driver's license  in one's possession  while driving is  merely a                                                               
correctable  infraction, with  bail  set at  $50,  rather than  a                                                               
class B  misdemeanor.   Section 4 -  pertaining to  AS 28.22.019,                                                               
proof of  insurance to be  carried and exhibited on  demand [and]                                                               
penalty - would  similarly conform that statute  to current court                                                               
rules in  the Alaska Rules  of Administration which  provide that                                                               
not having proof  of insurance in one's  possession while driving                                                               
is  merely a  correctable infraction,  with a  mandatory fine  of                                                               
$500,  rather than  a class  B misdemeanor  with a  discretionary                                                               
minimum fine of $500.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  explained  that  Section 5  -  pertaining  to  AS                                                               
41.23.220, penalty  [for committing violations in  the Knik River                                                               
Public Use Area] - would  conform that statute with AS 11.46.420,                                                               
pertaining to  the crime arson in  the third degree.   Enacted in                                                               
2006,  AS  41.23.220  and associated  regulations  provided  that                                                               
burning a  vehicle in the Knik  River Public Use Area  would be a                                                               
violation, with a bail amount of  $50.  In contrast, when enacted                                                               
in 2008,  AS 11.46.420 provided  that burning a vehicle  on state                                                               
or  municipal land  would be  a  class C  felony property  crime.                                                               
Under Section  5, all burning  of vehicles in public  areas would                                                               
be  a class  C felony,  and this  is in  keeping with  the latest                                                               
expression of  legislative intent  as evidenced by  the enactment                                                               
of AS 11.46.420.   In response to a question,  she confirmed that                                                               
under  Section  4,  not  having   proof  of  insurance  in  one's                                                               
possession while driving would remain a correctable infraction.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   referred  to  a  Department   of  Law                                                               
memorandum  in members'  packets dated  March 1,  2010, regarding                                                               
other states' rules about first court appearance after arrest.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:15 p.m. to 2:16 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI,  in  response to  questions,  clarified  that  in                                                               
County of  Riverside v. McLaughlin  - one  of the cases  cited in                                                             
that  memorandum -  the  U.S. Supreme  Court  approved a  48-hour                                                               
time-period for holding someone  without probable cause; and that                                                               
no  state   court  has  interpreted  the   U.S.  Constitution  as                                                               
requiring  a  different time  period,  though  other states  have                                                               
approved  a variety  of  different time  periods  in their  state                                                               
laws.  She  confirmed that Alaska's courts  hadn't addressed this                                                               
issue yet because existing Alaska  Statute provided for a 24-hour                                                               
time-period including weekends and holidays.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  expressed concern that  Alaska's courts                                                               
haven't  yet interpreted  the  U.S.  Constitution regarding  that                                                               
issue,  and suggested,  therefore, that  a specific  severability                                                               
clause be added  to HB 175 since its proposed  change to the time                                                               
limit could invite a constitutional challenge.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFFREY A. MITTMAN, Executive  Director, American Civil Liberties                                                               
Union  of Alaska  (ACLU of  Alaska), noting  that he'd  submitted                                                               
written testimony  regarding HB 175,  pointed out that  in Alaska                                                               
there  is  already  a  rule  allowing for  an  exception  to  the                                                               
existing  deadline when  necessary.   It's an  open question,  he                                                               
ventured, whether the Alaska Supreme  Court would find that a 48-                                                               
hour time-period  is reasonable.   To the  extent that HB  175 is                                                               
intended  to allow  for the  extended  period of  time only  when                                                               
needed, he  remarked, the ACLU  of Alaska suggests that  it would                                                               
instead be better  to have a 24-hour time-period  and continue to                                                               
allow for additional time to be requested when necessary.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:26 p.m. to 2:29 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI, in  response to  comments, pointed  out that  the                                                               
constitutional issues  regarding this time period  were discussed                                                               
thoroughly last  year when  House Bill 324  - which  proposed the                                                               
change from  24 hours to 48  hours - was debated,  and reiterated                                                               
that HB 175  would merely correct an oversight in  that when that                                                               
time period was changed, some  of the associated statutes weren't                                                               
similarly changed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:30:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  directed attention  to the  language on                                                               
page  2 of  Mr.  Mittman's written  testimony, specifically  that                                                               
which  read [original  punctuation,  along  with some  formatting                                                               
changes, provided]:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Given  that the  currently existing  rules of  criminal                                                                    
     procedure already  provide an exception  for defendants                                                                    
     arrested  far   from  urban   centers  and   allow  the                                                                    
     prosecution  to   request  a   delay  to   gather  more                                                                    
     information  where necessary  for a  bail hearing,  the                                                                    
     state's success over the last  18 years in providing an                                                                    
     initial  appearance within  24 hours  strongly suggests                                                                    
     that  a delay  of more  than 24  hours would  represent                                                                    
     unnecessary      delay,     making      the     statute                                                                    
     unconstitutional.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI,  in response to questions  and comments, clarified                                                               
that  although Alaska's  statutes do  allow  for a  delay if  the                                                               
person is  charged with a  felony, that delay only  applies after                                                               
the  person's initial  appearance before  the court,  whereas the                                                               
bill addresses the  time period in which a  person must initially                                                               
be brought before the court  after his/her arrest.  Regardless of                                                               
what the deadlines is, the best  practice, she pointed out, is to                                                               
bring the  person before a  judicial officer as soon  as possible                                                               
because  that's better  for all  concerned.   However, there  are                                                               
situations in which it could  be difficult for law enforcement to                                                               
gather  enough  information  within   a  24-hour  time-period  to                                                               
determine what  the appropriate charges  should be, and  it would                                                               
therefore be better  to wait a day before arraignment.   The bill                                                               
would extend  the deadline in  those cases where it  is necessary                                                               
for  the orderly  administration  of justice.   Furthermore,  the                                                               
victim  has a  constitutional  right to  appear  at that  initial                                                               
hearing, and sometimes  he/she either can't be found  or would be                                                               
unable to attend  within a 24-hour time-period.   She assured the                                                               
committee that  having a 48-hour  deadline doesn't mean  that the                                                               
DOL is automatically going to  wait another day before bringing a                                                               
person in for  his/her initial court appearance,  because the DOL                                                               
is not  interested in keeping  someone an extra day  just because                                                               
the law allows it.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:39:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  whether  the DOL  was having  to                                                               
release people because it wasn't meeting the 24-hour deadline.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said not to her knowledge.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  questioned, then, why the  deadline was                                                               
changed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENETI  explained   that   the   24-hour  deadline   was                                                               
problematic in that  when a person was arrested in  the middle of                                                               
the  night or  was arrested  in a  rural area  of the  state, for                                                               
example,  it  was  sometimes  very  difficult  to  gather  enough                                                               
information  within  24 hours  for  the  DOL to  make  reasonable                                                               
decisions.   Referring to the aforementioned  DOL memorandum, she                                                               
noted that most other states  provide for a significantly greater                                                               
amount of  time than 24 hours.   She offered her  belief that the                                                               
change from 24 hours to 48  hours hasn't affected the majority of                                                               
cases,  and  would instead  be  very  helpful.   In  response  to                                                               
further  questions, she  acknowledged that  because the  statutes                                                               
weren't  changed under  House Bill  324,  most jurisdictions  are                                                               
still  operating   under  the   24-hour  deadline,   though  some                                                               
jurisdictions have  somewhat relaxed  that deadline  depending on                                                               
the particular case.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR THOMPSON,  after ascertaining that no  one else wished                                                               
to testify on  HB 175, closed public testimony,  and relayed that                                                               
HB 175 would be held over.                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Amy L. Demboski Resume.pdf HJUD 3/14/2011 1:00:00 PM
Donald J. Haase Resume.pdf HJUD 3/14/2011 1:00:00 PM
William A. Granger Resume.pdf HJUD 3/14/2011 1:00:00 PM
Nora G. Barlow Resume.pdf HJUD 3/14/2011 1:00:00 PM